The SHE Show Thrash Out: Behaviour and Culture Change … The How and The Why!

Wednesday 11th August 2021, 10:00am – 11:00am

What is The SHE Show Thrash Out all about?

As the name suggests, this will be a frank, honest and open discussion on Behaviour and Culture Change … The How and The Why! Ultimately, we want all attendees to takeaway new thought patterns, inspiration, motivation, hints and tips to take on board and share with colleagues.

Duncan Aspin, Director of HSEQS, VolkerStevin will facilitate the discussion, joined by the following conversationalists…

– John Green, Vice President Global HSE at SNC-Lavalin
Dawn Hemmings Director, Occupational Health and Safety at Citrix
– Bob Cummins, Director at SODAK

(see short biographies below)


What will be discussed?

  • Behaviour is not the problem it is a symptom
  • Behaviour is not a simple choice
  • We are often very generalising when talking about behavioural improvement. Many find it difficult to identify the pinpointed actions we require to safely build or construct.
  • We often fall for fundamental attribution error, blaming the individual rather than taking the time to look at the context in which the action occurred.
  • Employees are key to any behavioural change in a business, but businesses don’t always utilise them. Why not?
  • How do you get leadership engagement to change behaviours so everyone is involved?


Duncan Aspin, HSEQS Director, VolkerStevin

Duncan has worked in construction for over 30 years both operationally on site and as a health and safety professional. He has extensive experience in designing and implementing successful behaviour change within organisations and champions embracing a positive, inclusive and solution focused culture.


John Green, Vice President Global HSE, SNC-Lavalin

John has worked in the oil, gas, petrochemical, electronics, heavy engineering, construction and aviation sectors and has over 40 years’ experience of industrial safety. He is globally recognised and respected as someone who does safety differently and as major force for change in how industrial safety is delivered.

He has spent periods living and working overseas with in the Middle East, Europe, Hong Kong, New Zealand, Australia, parts of the USA and Canada.

He has held senior positions with Motorola, British Airways and Severn Trent and Board level positions with McAlpine, Laing O’Rourke and Battersea Power Station Development Company and has over 20 years’ experience on complex, global projects including London 2012, Terminals 5 and 2, Crossrail, HS2, Hinkley Point and Tideway.

He is currently the Vice President HSE for SNC Lavalin based in Montreal and London

John holds qualifications in Occupational Health and Safety, Environmental Mgmt, Risk Mgmt, Change Mgmt, Psychology, Law, and has studied Criminology and Philosophy. He is one of the original architects of doing safety differently and challenging traditional or orthodox thinking in work is delivered safely.

He is a Chartered member of the Institution of Occupational Safety and Health, a Board Trustee of IOSH and the Chair of the IOSH Policy and Standards Committee

He was voted the most influential Safety and Health person in 2017 and made the 2018 shortlist.

He spends any spare time that he has climbing in Europe and scuba diving across the world or any other pastime that requires exceptional risk management skills.


Dawn Hemmings Director, Occupational Health and Safety, Citrix

Dawn is the Director, Occupational Health and Safety at Citrix Ltd, with over 25 years’ experience in Automotive, Manufacturing, Mining, Petrochemical, Plastics and Food & Drink industries. She is a Fellow member of the Institute of Occupational Health and Safety IOSH and is qualified in NEBOSH Certificate and Diploma, MSc In Environmental, Health and Safety Management and MBA as well as many other EHS qualifications.

Her specialities including EHS strategy, problem solving, operations management, World Class Manufacturing, project management, supervisor training, coaching, mentoring and implementation and lead auditor of environmental, health, safety, and quality management systems.


Bob Cummins, Director, Sodak Ltd

I help companies create safer, more secure, healthier and more effective places of work.

I am an engineer, I used to be a civil engineer, I’m now a behavioural engineer. I specialise in helping leaders create environments that bring out the best in their people through the application of behavioural science.  I run Sodak Limited, a behaviour design agency. My background is construction, in the later part of my career, I specialised in health and safety.

I become increasingly disheartened and frustrated with the way it was all heading. Piles of procedures and paperwork, increasingly patronising initiatives and the incessant preaching that “all harm was preventable”. I mean, come on, how can all harm be preventable when we still rely on people?

Safety just isn’t a priority; if it were, we would be given unlimited budget and time.

No, safety has to be a value. Some harm will befall some people during their lives. We need to recognise this and continually improve, not shut down conversations because we are too scared to admit someone, somewhere might get hurt.

In 2008 I started learning the principles of behavioural science. This helped me see why so much of what had been creeping into health and safety seemed like such nonsense. Over the next five years, I studied the subject extensively. I became completely absorbed in understanding why people do what they do.

The more I learnt, the more I could identify the source of the chaos and see the harm caused by ill-informed initiatives. In 2011 I set up Alternative Safety Ltd to challenge the entrenched thinking about health and safety.

I formed Sodak in 2013 with the express aim of helping people understand people. Our team includes academics, consultants, industry experts and specialists. We help organisations improve performance through the application of behavioural science and evidence based management.

Learning this stuff changed my life and I want to share it with you too.